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View Poll Results: How do you feel about alllowing webcrawlers to archive this forum? | |||
Yes, I would like to see the forum in the Internet Archive. | 25 | 24.51% | |
No, I would prefer to keep this forum unarchivable, as it is now. | 77 | 75.49% | |
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll |
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03-30-06, 03:12 PM | |
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
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Would you like access to the VF Forum in the Internet Archives?
The Internet Archive is a website that captures web pages from throughout the history of the internet. It is often possible to find pages there that do not exist live on the internet anymore. I use it a lot in my job as a teacher-librarian and I have often used it personally, as well, sometimes to dig up things I posted on VF that are no longer available on the VF site itself (Wendy can only archive so much).
The last time I tried to do this, though, I discovered that the forum was no longer available in the Internet Archive because Wendy had diasbled the crawlers necessary for the Internet Archive to perform this function. I questioned her about it and she gave her reasons in this thread. I could not find any discussion of this on the forum, and I personally would like to have this site crawled so we can have access to the archives. Since this forum is public anyway, I don't understand the desire to keep it from the webcrawlers. How do you feel?
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03-30-06, 09:11 PM | |
Join Date: Jul 2004
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It bothers me that I can currently Google my name and posts from various places come up in the search. It seems so intrusive. Yes ... I know it's a public forum, but we have so little privacy left in this world ... I'm with others on this. Keep this forum the way it is. No archives. Sometimes things are better left in the past.
Carol
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03-31-06, 02:51 PM | |
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Alberta
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Although I do like searching for and finding stuff, generally speaking, I voted no for this particular forum. Mostly because I think that although there is a lot of useful information at VF, there's also a lot of personal information shared because of the back-and-forth conversational context.
I might feel differently about other forums and other internet communities, though. I do like being able to search for my posts from within VF, I guess, mostly for reference, and to jar my sieve-like memory.
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03-31-06, 09:45 PM | ||
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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I can see both sides, but I voted "yes" yesterday, if only to be a contrarian.
Obviously you don't need Internet Archive to archive--I wasn't even going to post until I read the way the conversation's been going into today. - My own position is similar to Lianne's--not about the Internet Archive per se, though, but about archiving. [In this post, all general references to "archives" are VF-specific.] I'd like to see the archives preserved; I'd like to have the opportunity to see posts if I wanted to, even if they're old (does anyone keep old workout logs--or does anyone throw away old photos simply because they're old?). I'd see deleting old threads simply because they're old (or letting them fade into vapor) almost like wiping out history or letting it disappear. - I also agree on the searching: here's to hoping that upcoming versions of the software have or are compatible with better search functions. - I do appreciate that storage space is limited, and I do see that it's easier and less dicey to delete old check-ins wholesale than picking through them to see what's least worthy of saving , but I'd rather not see that happening either. Lots of Yoga Check-In history has simply disappeared, and with it lots of informative and interesting conversation. I've saved some of the old check-ins, but I don't agree entirely with Quote:
- Where am I on using the Internet Archive? At the risk of being unpopular, I wouldn't really mind, especially as I'm very private anyway and don't share information on publicly accessible boards, no matter how searchable they are. I can see why others would be uncomfortable, though, and I respect them, especially if they aren't opposed to the mere idea of keeping old posts archived and searchable within VF. (No, a thousand times no, I don't want to restrict VF reading access to registered members only without some extremely good reason.)
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